Practice Disrupted by Practice of Architecture

Evelyn Lee
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Practice Disrupted by Practice of Architecture

The evolution of architectural practice has been relatively slow towards change, yet modern shifts in business and design management have prompted today’s leading architects to rethink how they work. On Practice Disrupted, Evelyn Lee, an architect, design strategist, and Senior Experience Designer at Slack, and architecture business strategy consultant, Je’Nen Chastain, set out to illuminate the future of the profession to help architects remain relevant and valuable in a changing world. They will explore how technology, cultural shifts, and emerging best practices are prompting firm owners to assess their business models and make adjustments in their studios. Each episode features an industry leader, and together our hosts will explore the new frontier of architectural practice.

  1. 4D AGO

    200: 200 Episodes, Changing Practice, and What Comes Next

    What happens when the disruptors pause to reflect on the disruption? For the 200th episode of Practice Disrupted, Evelyn Lee welcomes back a very special guest: her original co-creator and former co-host, Je’Nen Chastain. Five years after they launched the podcast to challenge the conventions of architectural practice, they reunite for a milestone conversation about how their paths have evolved, the inflection points facing the profession, and why the work of changing the industry is more urgent than ever. Since stepping away from the microphone, Je’Nen has been building Apostrophe Consulting, a practice dedicated to helping AEC firms implement the real, substantial change they often only talk about. She shares how her work focuses on treating firm evolution as a design problem, addressing critical challenges like leadership transition, knowledge transfer, and the immense pressure on the "stretched thin" middle managers holding the gap between senior leaders and emerging staff. The conversation goes deep into the core issues plaguing the profession, from the "hollowing out" of the talent pipeline due to multiple recessions to the ongoing debate about where business education fits into an architect's training. Je’Nen and Evelyn also get personal, sharing candid reflections on identity, belonging, and the emotional toll of diverging from the traditional career path, and why they are each tackling the industry's problems from their unique perspectives. “Essentially at the core of it, what I'm really trying to change is the culture of how we develop and cultivate architecture firms. One of the things we argued on this podcast over and over again was that the business model was outdated. And I think the reason it's outdated is because culture was never taken into consideration as a design variable in building it." - Je’Nen Chastain The episode concludes with a look at how Evelyn is leveraging AI as a "teammate" to streamline operations, and a heartfelt congratulations on 200 episodes of creating a platform for the voices shaping the future of practice. Guest: Je’Nen Chastain is the original co-creator and former co-host of the Practice Disrupted podcast. She is the founder of Apostrophe Consulting, where she works with AEC firms to navigate complex challenges including leadership transitions, organizational design, knowledge transfer, and culture change. With a background in architecture and an MBA, Je’Nen combines design thinking with business strategy to help leaders implement meaningful and lasting transformation within their practices. Her mission is to help firms build healthier, more resilient business models where people can thrive. Is This Episode for You? This episode is for you if:  ✅ You're a long-time listener curious about the origins of the podcast   ✅ You are navigating a non-traditional career path in architecture   ✅ You are a firm leader or middle manager dealing with talent gaps and knowledge transfer   ✅ You believe firm culture is a critical component of a healthy business model   ✅ You are wrestling with your own sense of identity and belonging within the profession What have you done to take action lately? Share your reflections with us on social and join the conversation. 📍 Show Links: Connect with Je’Nen on LinkedInLearn more about Apostrophe ConsultingFollow Apostrophe Consulting on a href="https://www.instagram.com/apostrophe.consulting/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer"...

    55 min

  2. JUN 12

    199: Architecture, And: Niknaz Aftahi on Tech, Equity, and Transformation

    How can architects build more equitable, accessible, and tech-forward tools for the profession?This week on Practice Disrupted, Evelyn Lee sits down with Niknaz Aftahi, architect, technologist, and founder of AEC+Tech, to explore how design and technology intersect, and how a background in architecture can lead to reimagining the future of AEC innovation. From early experiences with educational inequality in Iran to launching a platform that connects professionals with emerging tools and workflows, Niknaz shares a career defined by persistence, creativity, and service. Niknaz reflects on the formative role of her underground architectural education in Iran, where she was denied access to public universities due to her religious beliefs. After pursuing graduate studies at UC Berkeley, she worked in Bay Area firms and became increasingly interested in the inefficiencies she saw in traditional design practice. That curiosity led her to create AEC+Tech, a community-centered innovation platform built to democratize access to AEC tools, surface real-world case studies, and connect isolated parts of the industry. Evelyn and Niknaz discuss how small firms can navigate emerging technologies, why inclusive innovation matters, and how AEC+Tech has evolved from a simple database into a growing network of architects, engineers, and builders who are ready to experiment. They also touch on mentorship, knowledge sharing, and why Niknaz believes firm culture, and ultimately, the industry, can be transformed through collective learning. “Once you have a vision and you believe in a project or a goal, you don’t need to know what the final product is going to be. But with perseverance, consistency, and belief, you will make it work.” - Niknaz Aftahi The episode concludes with a reflection on rethinking career paths in architecture and the power of showing up with intention, even when the route ahead is uncertain. Guest: Niknaz Aftahi is the CEO and founder of AEC+Tech, an innovation platform that helps connect AEC professionals with emerging tools and technologies. Trained as an architect, she previously led design and technology initiatives at ELS Architecture and Urban Design and co-founded their internal Design Technology Committee. She currently serves on AIA San Francisco’s Design Technology Committee and teaches online architecture courses to Baha’i students in Iran through the Bahá’í Institute for Higher Education. Her work centers equity, access, and knowledge sharing in the built environment. Is This Episode for You?This episode is for you if: ✅ You’re curious about the intersection of architecture and technology ✅ You want to explore alternative career paths beyond firm life ✅ You’re passionate about building community and sharing knowledge ✅ You’re navigating how to introduce innovation inside (or outside) traditional systems What have you done to take action lately? Share your reflections with us on social and join the conversation. 📍 Show Links: Connect with Niknaz on LinkedInFollow Niknaz on InstagramLearn more about AEC+Tech 📍 Follow Practice Disrupted on Social: Facebook | Instagram | a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/practiceofarchitecture/"...

    44 min

  3. JUN 5

    198: Architecture, And: Henry Gao is Empowering Creatives with Digital Tools

    How can architects build creative careers in the creator economy?In this episode of Practice Disrupted, Evelyn Lee speaks with Henry Gao, architect turned digital creator, educator, and founder of Draw With Gao, a platform that teaches architects and designers how to leverage iPad sketching as both a creative outlet and a new revenue stream. Henry’s path offers a rare glimpse into how an architectural background can evolve beyond the profession into entrepreneurship, storytelling, and scalable creative business. Henry shares his journey from sketching historical buildings as a child in China to navigating a traditional architecture education in Canada and the U.S., and eventually stepping away from firm life after realizing it didn’t align with his values. Along the way, he experimented with freelance renderings, ran an Etsy shop, studied architectural photography, and slowly built an ecosystem of content that now supports a global audience of designers. Together, Evelyn and Henry explore the challenges of leaving the traditional architecture path, the role of mentors and paid coaching, and what it takes to build a sustainable business around content, courses, and community. They also discuss Henry’s evolution from side hustles to a full-time educational platform, the power of standard operating procedures (SOPs), and why he believes teaching is a form of service that architects are well-equipped to offer. “When I stopped trying to fit into traditional architecture roles, I started to see all the ways my training could serve people. Teaching, drawing, storytelling, those are still architectural skills. But now I use them to empower others, and in doing so, I’ve built a business that’s both creative and sustainable.” - Henry Gao The episode concludes with a reflection on ikigai - the Japanese concept of purpose, and how Henry’s work sits at the intersection of what he loves, what he’s good at, what people need, and what can be monetized. It’s a conversation about reimagining the future of architecture as something broader than buildings - something designed to fit the life you want to live. Guest: Henry Gao is a designer, educator, and the founder of Draw With Gao, an online platform offering courses, tools, and coaching for architects and creatives interested in mastering digital hand drawing. Trained in architecture at Carleton University and Cornell, Henry transitioned from working in design firms to building a business rooted in teaching and storytelling. His work focuses on helping creatives turn their skills into impactful, scalable offerings in the creator economy. Is This Episode for You?This episode is for you if: ✅ You’re an architect curious about alternative career paths ✅ You want to learn how to monetize creative skills beyond the billable hour ✅ You’ve considered launching an online course, product, or content platform ✅ You’re exploring ways to build freedom and sustainability into your design career What have you done to take action lately? Share your reflections with us on social and join the conversation. 📍 Show Links: Connect with Henry on LinkedInFollow Henry on InstagramLearn more about Draw with GaoSubscribe to Henry’s Youtube Channel  📍 Follow Practice Disrupted on Social: a...

    49 min

  4. MAY 29

    197: Marywood University’s New Degree in Virtual Architecture

    How can virtual architecture expand the role of the architect? In this week’s episode of Practice Disrupted, Evelyn Lee talks with Ryan Scavnicky, better known as Scav, about the future of architectural education, immersive digital environments, and redefining what it means to design space. As the Assistant Professor at Marywood University and creator of its new Bachelor of Virtual Architecture (BVA) program, Scav is imagining an architectural education rooted in video games, virtual reality, live streaming, and spatial storytelling. Dubbed the “Godfather of Architecture Memes” by Architectural Digest, Scav’s journey is anything but traditional. After training at the University of Cincinnati and working internationally at firms like Coop Himmelb(l)au, he pivoted to academia and new media, exploring how digital space can be as meaningful and architectural as physical buildings. He shares how Twitch streaming, immersive crit sessions, and real-time collaboration have reshaped his understanding of design and pedagogy. Evelyn and Scav explore the implications of this new degree program and what it means for the future of practice. They discuss how architecture has historically overlooked virtual space, how the profession might embrace new tools without losing its critical rigor, and how graduates of this program might expand into careers in game design, XR, storytelling, and tech, while still thinking like architects. The episode also examines the deeper cultural implications of space in games and film, and how architects can reclaim authorship in those expanding frontiers. “To me, this is still just architecture. We’re reaching a new medium of space, one that lives on screens, through headsets, inside games - and we have the tools to shape that with the same intentionality and care we bring to buildings.” - Ryan Scavnicky The episode concludes with a reflection on accessibility, immersion, and how virtual environments can be both technically and emotionally meaningful. Scav offers insight into how the profession can evolve, starting in the studio, and why it’s time to take digital spatial design seriously as a legitimate architectural practice. Guest:Ryan Scavnicky (Scav) is a designer, educator, content creator, and Assistant Professor at Marywood University, where he leads the newly launched Bachelor of Virtual Architecture program. With a background spanning traditional architecture, theory, memes, and digital media, Scav is known for translating architectural thinking into new formats, including Twitch, TikTok, and game engines. His work reclaims virtual environments as spaces for critical design, connection, and immersive storytelling. Is This Episode for You?This episode is for you if: ✅ You’re curious about the intersection of architecture and video games ✅ You’re an educator thinking about how to evolve studio culture ✅ You’re wondering what the future of licensure, pedagogy, or spatial experience might look like ✅ You believe architecture should expand beyond buildings and engage new mediums What have you done to take action lately? Share your reflections with us on social and join the conversation. 📍 Show Links: Connect with Scav on LinkedInFollow Scav on InstagramLearn more about Marywood’s Virtual Architecture Program 📍 Follow Practice Disrupted on Social: a...

    42 min

  5. MAY 22

    196: Architecture, And: Kate Aoki on Exhibition Design

    How can architects redefine experience through storytelling and space?This week on Practice Disrupted, Evelyn Lee talks with Kate Aoki, architect, educator, and founding partner of Golden Egg Creative, to explore how designers can blend architecture, storytelling, and community to create immersive, intentional experiences. With a career path that’s taken her through fine arts, museum design, architecture firms, and now entrepreneurship, Kate shares what it means to craft spaces not just for use, but for memory, meaning, and delight. Kate opens up about her nonlinear journey, starting with a degree in textile design, before eventually returning to her lifelong goal of becoming an architect. Along the way, she worked in galleries, lived abroad, and built a foundation in public and nonprofit spaces. Her deep love for fine art and interpretive design led her back to the Dallas Museum of Art as Head of Exhibition Design, fulfilling a long-held dream. But after four years, she realized the bureaucracy of nonprofit work wasn’t a long-term fit. What came next was a leap into co-founding Golden Egg, a firm focused on designing transformative experiences rooted in cultural storytelling and visitor connection. Evelyn and Kate discuss what it takes to launch a niche practice, how to build authentic partnerships with architects and civic institutions, and why experience design is growing in relevance across sectors. Whether developing mobile exhibits for aerospace education or reimagining museum installations, Kate brings a holistic and thoughtful approach to every detail, from lighting and circulation to the words on the wall. “This felt like putting on a pair of shoes that fit perfectly. It’s the kind of work I’ve always been meant to do - blending fine art, architecture, and storytelling into experiences that connect people to something larger than themselves.” – Kate Aoki The episode concludes with reflections on growth, creative courage, and how designers can prototype career pivots by following their curiosity and leaning into interdisciplinary collaboration. Guest:Kate Aoki, AIA, NOMA, is an architect and founding partner at Golden Egg Creative, a design firm specializing in exhibition and experience design. With a background in fine arts, architecture, and interpretive planning, Kate’s work bridges storytelling, culture, and space. She previously served as Head of Exhibition Design at the Dallas Museum of Art and has over a decade of experience working across firms and institutions. Her practice centers on community engagement, accessible design, and building memorable experiences for public audiences. Is This Episode for You?This episode is for you if: ✅ You’re a designer interested in museum, exhibition, or experience design ✅ You’re navigating a nonlinear or interdisciplinary career path ✅ You want to integrate storytelling and interpretation into your design work ✅ You’re thinking about starting a small practice aligned with your values What have you done to take action lately? Share your reflections with us on social and join the conversation. 📍 Show Links: Connect with Kate on LinkedInLearn more about Golden Egg 📍 Follow Practice Disrupted on Social: Facebook | Instagram | a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/practiceofarchitecture/" rel="noopener...

    32 min

  6. MAY 15

    195: Saving Modernism: George Smart’s Mission to Preserve Design History

    How does a personal passion project become the world's largest archive for modernist residential design? In this episode of Practice Disrupted, Evelyn Lee sits down with George Smart, founder and CEO of USModernist, to explore how a personal interest blossomed into a vital national resource for architecture enthusiasts and professionals alike. George's journey takes us from a late-night internet search inspired by his own house hunt to leading a nonprofit that documents, preserves, and promotes modernist homes across America—and along the way, he offers insights into the importance of architectural heritage and community building.   George opens up about the origins of US Modernist, starting 18 years ago as a local website cataloging houses in North Carolina's Triangle area after rediscovering childhood memories linked to his architect father. He details the organization's organic growth to national prominence and the pivotal moment a realtor's call about magazines in a wet basement led to the creation of a massive, freely accessible digital library of over 5 million pages. George discusses US Modernist's unique approach of archiving by architect, the critical role documentation plays in saving homes often dismissed as "that weird house down the street," and shares compelling stories of preservation successes, including moving an entire house to prevent its demolition.   He and Evelyn discuss the surprising makeup of the modernist fan base (mostly non-architects!), the challenges realtors face with these unique properties, and how architects can better connect with potential clients by engaging with the communities that celebrate this architectural style.   "The vibe in these homes is wonderful for living. It's more relaxed, it's more open, with light and air. The improvements in glass and steel and insulation and technology have made these great houses from the 50s even better now when they're remodeled." - George Smart   The episode concludes with George's advice for architects looking to connect with this passionate audience and his thoughts on the future stewardship of USModernist. Guest: George Smart, HAIA, is the Founder and CEO of USModernist, the world's largest nonprofit archive dedicated to documenting, preserving, and promoting modernist residential design. What started as a personal project cataloging local houses has grown into a major national resource under his leadership. He is also the host of the popular US Modernist Radio podcast. Driven by a lifelong passion for modernism, partly inspired by his architect father, George has applied his background in strategic planning to build a dedicated community and extensive digital archive ensuring these unique homes are recognized and saved. He himself built and lives in a modernist home.   Is This Episode for You?   This episode is for you if:  ✅ You're an architect or designer interested in modernism, preservation, or connecting with passionate potential clients  ✅ You're a fan of modernist architecture and history ✅ You work in historic preservation, architectural history, or archives ✅  You're curious about how nonprofit organizations focused on architecture are built and sustained  ✅  You own or aspire to own a modernist home   What have you done to take action lately? Share your reflections with us on social and join the conversation. 📍 Show Links: Connect with George on LinkedInFollow George on a href="https://www.instagram.com/mr.modernism/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer"...

    35 min

  7. MAY 8

    194: Architecture, And: Bridging Design and Industry with Nima Balasubramanian

    How can architects build better relationships with materials - and each other?In this episode of Practice Disrupted, Evelyn Lee sits down with Nima Balasubramanian, Director of Architecture at the American Institute of Steel Construction (AISC), to explore how architects can deepen their material knowledge, challenge industry norms, and find joy in alternative career paths. Nima’s story takes us from long nights at overworked firms to welding workshops and global entrepreneurship, and along the way, she invites us to imagine a better way of practicing architecture. Nima opens up about her early days in traditional firms where overwork was rewarded, not questioned. She speaks candidly about the toll it took on her health, family, and sense of purpose, and how two pregnancy losses ultimately pushed her to reexamine her future in the profession. After launching her own practice in the Netherlands and experiencing a radically different approach to work-life balance, Nima returned to the U.S. with a new perspective -and an openness to roles that extended beyond conventional practice. Today, she leads AISC’s Architecture Center, where she works to bridge the gap between architects and the steel industry. Through hands-on learning experiences like job site tours and welding workshops, Nima is helping architects reconnect with material craft and access information in ways that are practical, visual, and engaging. She and Evelyn discuss what it means to build collaborative cultures, the power of small shifts in firm leadership, and how designers can advocate for healthier, more sustainable ways of working. “When we give architects the chance to pick up a welding torch, to walk a steel mill, to actually feel the material - that’s when real learning happens. It’s not about memorizing data sheets. It’s about creating experiences that stay with you and inform your design choices.”- Nima Balasubramanian The episode concludes with encouragement for anyone exploring nontraditional paths: your architecture education is not wasted, it’s a foundation. Nima shares how skills like communication, empathy, and project management translate far beyond firm life, and offers advice for others navigating career transitions, burnout, or culture misalignment in their current roles. Guest: Nima Balasubramanian is the Director of Architecture at the American Institute of Steel Construction (AISC), where she leads the Architecture Center in creating tools, events, and resources that connect architects more deeply with the steel industry. Trained as an architect in India and the U.S., Nima has worked across three continents, founded her own practice, and held leadership roles in both design and operations. Her mission today is to champion hands-on, human-centered approaches to material education and professional development. Is This Episode for You?This episode is for you if: ✅ You’re an architect curious about career paths outside of traditional practice ✅ You’re burned out and wondering what else is possible ✅ You want to reconnect with materials and craft in your work ✅ You’re thinking about how firm culture affects health, happiness, and retention What have you done to take action lately? Share your reflections with us on social and join the conversation. 📍 Show Links: Connect with Nima on LinkedInLearn more about the AISC Architecture Center 📍 Follow Practice Disrupted on Social: a href="https://www.facebook.com/PracticeofArchitecture/" rel="noopener...

    31 min

  8. MAY 1

    193: Architecture, And: Rochelle Mills, Shaping Community Stories

    How can architecture build dignity, belonging, and home?In this episode of Practice Disrupted, Evelyn Lee sits down with Rochelle Mills, President and CEO of Innovative Housing Opportunities (IHO), to explore how architecture and development intersect with justice, memory, and transformation. Rochelle’s story weaves together the worlds of design, cultural tourism, housing equity, and personal grit. From running a groundbreaking architecture tour company to leading one of California’s most creative nonprofit housing developers, her career is a masterclass in reinvention—with purpose. Trained as an architect, Rochelle brings a design-first mindset to affordable housing. But her journey to leadership has been anything but linear. She shares how she and her husband co-founded Mills Studio, launched their cultural tourism company ArchiTours, and weathered the instability of early professional life—all while raising a family and fighting to stay connected to the work that inspired her most. Together, Evelyn and Rochelle unpack what it means to build communities that truly support people. They talk about the emotional power of architecture, the harm of neglectful design, and how seemingly small spatial choices—like the width of a hallway or placement of a window—can dramatically impact lives. Rochelle also reflects candidly on her personal and professional path, the guilt she once felt around licensure, and the many ways architects can lead—even outside of traditional roles. “There’s this misconception that affordable housing should feel temporary or ‘less than.’ But what if we designed spaces that said, ‘You belong here. You’re valued.’ That’s the standard we should be holding ourselves to.” – Rochelle Mills The episode concludes with a look at what it means to lead with empathy and vision in a mission-driven business, and why Rochelle believes architects are uniquely suited to solve the complex challenges of housing today. Guest: Rochelle Mills is the President and CEO of Innovative Housing Opportunities, a California-based nonprofit developer focused on creating high-quality, affordable housing. With a background in architecture and deep experience in cultural tourism, she brings a design-driven, equity-minded approach to development. Rochelle is a tireless advocate for beauty, dignity, and belonging in the built environment, and her leadership is reshaping what affordable housing looks and feels like. Is This Episode for You?This episode is for you if: ✅ You care about housing justice and community impact ✅ You’re exploring career paths beyond traditional architecture ✅ You want to understand how design shapes lives, not just spaces ✅ You’re a mission-driven leader seeking new ways to serve What have you done to take action lately? Share your thoughts with us on social media and join the conversation. 📍 Show Links: Connect with Rochelle Mills on LinkedInLearn more about Innovative Housing OpportunitiesExplore ArchiTours 📍 Follow Practice Disrupted on Social: Facebook | Instagram | a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/practiceofarchitecture/" rel="noopener noreferrer"...

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The evolution of architectural practice has been relatively slow towards change, yet modern shifts in business and design management have prompted today’s leading architects to rethink how they work. On Practice Disrupted, Evelyn Lee, an architect, design strategist, and Senior Experience Designer at Slack, and architecture business strategy consultant, Je’Nen Chastain, set out to illuminate the future of the profession to help architects remain relevant and valuable in a changing world. They will explore how technology, cultural shifts, and emerging best practices are prompting firm owners to assess their business models and make adjustments in their studios. Each episode features an industry leader, and together our hosts will explore the new frontier of architectural practice.

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